Talk:Snow Leopard

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Ideas about the Footprint

I ran Monolingual leaving only English, US English, and Japanese support in, as well as x86 and x86-64. I have a friend who did the same thing and left only English, US English, and x86 support in (he has a Core Duo so the x86-64 binaries don't matter to him), the results were to say the least, drastic. He only told me his Keynote file size after that (158.9 MB), but my Keynote file size is 169.3 MB, Finder is 18.4 MB (compared to 29.6 MB before), iChat 16.9 MB (compared to 110 MBs before), Safari is 10.4 MB (compared to 65.7 MBs before), and iTunes is 39.5 MB (compared to 137.1 MBs before). Because I interrupted the process (by accident) halfway through, I don't have an exact tally of how much space I saved removing the ARM, PPC, and other Foreign language support but I estimate it was about 3 GB. If Apple were dropping PPC they would only be removing the PPC binaries though and leaving any ARM and x86/-64 binaries in and I doubt they would drop foreign language support. Now if they start stripping some depreciated Carbon (not all) in addition to leaving Java uninstalled by default (it could happen), then the OS footprint could be smaller still. My /System folder is now 3.5GB which is of course smaller than usual because of monolingual but also because I stripped some stuff I'll never use (Spotlight importers, Dashboard, Automator), then the footprint of the OS could get even smaller than that. Also if they left some stuff out by default (Foreign language support, Java, Xgrid, Modem Scripts, Drivers that the computer isn't using (for example I just discovered drivers for the X3100 even though I'm using a GMA 950, I'm going to of course delete those)) then of course the operating system will get even smaller than that, so it might be possible to get it down to 2.5-3 GB on a default installation.--Sebastianlewis 18:15, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

OK, but we don't have enough information to say whether it is simply removing extra languages etc. or if it's a true slimming of the code in apps here. --Blizzardbomb 05:54, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

It's virtually all going to be the languages. Eraserhead 07:35, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

Modern Codecs

Apple's marketing says Modern codecs but they say nothing about what they are, the only ones I can think of are Ogg Vorbis/Theora and SMTPE (VC-1) in addition to AVC (H.264) that's already there. They might also add HE-AAC, but taken another way, it could also mean they're removing support for some older codecs, such as the older MPEG standards or AC3, and thus optimizing it for only modern codecs still in use and removing support for codecs that are there for only legacy. Regardless, there's nothing said about that in the article, it's basically just a repeat of Apple's marketing pages that are too vague to really be useful to anybody right now anyway.--Sebastianlewis 19:08, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

As vague as it is, it is coming straight from Apple so the information is as accurate as it is going to get. --Blizzardbomb 05:54, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

That's the thing... it shouldn't be a repeat of the press releases and marketing. --Sebastianlewis 21:02, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Why not? We're compiling all the available information into one handy page to save time for the average person who doesn't want to go looking through press releases :) --Blizzardbomb 11:43, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

They could be adding DivX/Xvid support, or Perian Eraserhead 07:35, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

DivX is older than H.264 and is arguably not as good, so I doubt they mean that, and Perian adds support for a lot of older and obscure formats, no reason Apple would include it in a default installation. --Sebastianlewis 20:53, 22 June 2008 (EDT)